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Improvements to Charge positioning with crosses
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Jim Burrows — Today at 18:59
I started looking into the positioning of 4 (or fewer) charges with various types of objects between them (more to come below) and decided to illustrate their relationship to the fess point with a tine fusil at the fess point. That resulted in the following experiment. which illustrates that a single charge is in fact at the fess point, so long as it isn't modified by "over all" OR both "over all" and "in fess point".
[18:59]
!draw Argent
a fusil gules much smaller
a fusil or in fess point much smaller
over all a fusil vert smaller
a fusil azure in fess point much smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 18:59
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:00
one suspects that all four of those should have been centered on the same point.
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:11
Okay on to a couple of things that work just as I would expect, because we'd sooner no disrupt those if we fixe thos that work in an unexpected manner.
[19:12]
!draw azure
a cross
between
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:12
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:12
And if we narrow the cross…
[19:12]
!draw azure
a fillet cross
between
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:12
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:14
The mullets grow and stay centered in the empty space left by the cross, which. Both the quartet of mullets and the cross are centered in fees.
[19:14]
But what if we coupe the cross…
[19:15]
!draw azure
a crosslet
between
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:15
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:16
The quartet shrinks substantially, but remains centered on fess. The crosslet, however is not so centered, which is awkward.
[19:17]
But we're used to cheating a little for Drawshield, what if we remove the pesky "between"?
[19:18]
!draw azure
a crosslet
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:18
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:20
The crosslet is centered but the mullets are not and they change their arrangement to the default 3 1 (which by the way seems the wrong default, 2 2 seems more obvious—just a roll of the dice), so what if we arrange them?
[19:20]
!draw azure
a crosslet
four mullets or 2 2
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:20
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:20
Yay! the crosslet centers in fess, but… Boo! the quartet doe not.
[19:21]
I suspect that four … 2 2 should center on fess.
[19:27]
If we rotate our cross from above 45˚ making it a saltire, once more it works just as we might expect.
[19:27]
!draw azure
a saltire
between
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:27
The Parser Guy — Today at 19:30
also works with a cross, just not a crosslet (might be an ordinary/charge thing)
[19:31]
!draw azure a cross or between four mullets of the same a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:31
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:31
The mullets move as we would expect from the 2 2 arrangement used up until now to a 1 2 1, much as we would hope, and everything is centered in fess.
The Parser Guy — Today at 19:32
a saltire is an ordinary so that's probably why it also works
@The Parser Guy
!draw azure a cross or between four mullets of the same a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:32
Yes. I started with that configuration. It is the charge / ordinary at work at that point.
[19:33]
But, to continue with the part about the saltire (and again switching from ordinary to charge) if we replace the saltire with two charges in saltire…
[19:33]
!draw azure
two lances in saltire
between
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:33
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:34
The charges move to 2 2 and everyone centers just below fess.
[19:36]
For myself, I would expect a 1 2 1 arrangement just as with the ordinary.
[19:36]
Something not unlike:
[19:37]
!draw azure
two lances in saltire
four mullets or 1 2 1
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:37
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:37
Though perhaps centered in fess.
[19:38]
Note that neither the 1 2 1 nor the in saltire centers in fess nor where the other does.
[19:40]
All of this came yo when trying to explain to some one new why
[19:40]
! draw azure
a cross moline
between
three mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:40
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:41
looks as it does, being a degenerate version of
[19:41]
!draw azure
a cross moline
between
four mullets or
a fusil sable in fess point very much smaller very much smaller smaller
drawshield
BOT
— Today at 19:41
Jim Burrows — Today at 19:44
Great Ghu only knows how a cross-shaped charge between three should be emblazoned, but I wouldn't address that before handling the anomalies above. Heck. I might eve argue that unless you get really cute, yu're better off not regarding the cross moline as a cross, but more like a roundel, when emblazoning it between.
[19:45]
[End of series of observations on crosses between]
[19:46]
Sorry for the length, but the analysis just kept unfolding.
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