Scope decision: minimal CLI for one-off scripted prompts?
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Description
Motivation
Simon Willison's llm is CLI-first — cat file.py | llm "explain this" — and that shell-scriptability is a large part of its ~500k monthly downloads; it owns the "one-off scripted prompt" niche. chatlas has Chat.console() (chatlas/_chat.py, an interactive REPL loop over input()/chat()), but no non-interactive shell entry point, and no console-script registered in pyproject.toml. ellmer, the R sibling, has no CLI at all — R isn't typically invoked as a Unix filter the way Python scripts are, so this isn't something we can just "align with ellmer" on. This is filed as an open question, not a commitment.
Proposed approach (sketch, for discussion)
A minimal chatlas console-script, thin enough to not become a second product:
echo "def f(x): return x*2" | chatlas -m anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6 "review this"
chatlas "what is 2+2" # default provider/model via ChatAuto()
chatlas -m google "summarize" --schema mymod:Answer < notes.txt
Built directly on ChatAuto (chatlas/_auto.py), which already resolves "provider/model" strings and the CHATLAS_CHAT_PROVIDER_MODEL env var — the CLI would just be an argparse shim over it:
- Positional prompt argument, or read from stdin if piped (mirroring
cat file | llm "..."). -m/--modelmaps straight toChatAuto'sprovider_modelpositional arg.--schema module:ClassNameimportable Pydantic model, feedingchat_structured(data_model=...).- No history/session persistence, no fragments/templates system, no plugin ecosystem — those are exactly the things that make
llma bigger maintenance surface, and are explicitly out of scope for a v1.
Alternatives / prior art
- Status quo: users write a 5-line Python script themselves (
ChatAuto().chat(sys.stdin.read())). Arguably that's already "minimal enough" and keeps chatlas a library, not an app. - Point people at
llm: it already does this well, is provider-pluggable, and is actively maintained — a chatlas CLI could just be redundant surface area with a different provider list to keep in sync. - ellmer has no CLI; there's no cross-project precedent to inherit here either way.
Arguments for
- Trivial surface area if scoped to "single prompt in, text out."
- Adoption funnel — a
pip install chatlasshell one-liner is a low-friction discovery path for Python + posit users. ChatAutoalready does the heavy lifting; this is largely an argparse wrapper.
Arguments against
llmalready owns this niche well; differentiation is unclear.- Any CLI, once shipped, accrues feature requests (session history, output formats, piping semantics) that pull toward
llm-scope. - Not ellmer-aligned (no R precedent), and chatlas has generally stayed close to ellmer's API surface philosophy.
Open questions
Is this worth doing at all, and if so, how minimal can v1 stay? Maintainer input requested before any implementation work starts.
Drafted from a competitive review of llm / Pydantic AI / LangChain / LiteLLM (July 2026); filed via Claude Code on behalf of @cpsievert.
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First steps
- Read the whole issue, then the project's contributing guide.
- Comment on the issue to say you are picking it up — it saves two people doing the same work.
- Fork the repository and make your change on a branch.
- Open a pull request that references the issue number.
Research direction
Start by reading chatlas/_chat.py, chatlas/_auto.py, and pyproject.toml, then review the proposed commands and listed alternatives. Done means maintainers decide whether a CLI is worthwhile and record a minimal v1 scope or close the proposal; implementation should wait for that decision.
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Assessment
- Tech stack
- python
- Domain
- cli
- Issue type
- Feature
- Difficulty
- 5/5
- Estimated time
- Over a week
- Activity status
- Quiet
- Clarity
- Needs clarification
- Newbie friendliness
- 25/100