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simp? returns unuseful lemmas

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Description

Prerequisites

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Description
/--
info: Try this:
  [apply] simp only [ge_iff_le]
-/
#guard_msgs (substring := true) in
example {x : Rat} : 0 ≤ x := by
  have : 0 ≤ x := by sorry
  simp?

The above code gives ge_iff_le as one of the simp lemmas, despite this lemma not being useful or needed in the call.

Context

This is another instance of a regression in simp from Lean 3.
https://leanprover.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/287929-mathlib4/topic/simp.3F.20giving.20nonsense.20lemmas

Steps to Reproduce
  1. Code as above.

Expected behavior: simp? returns the lemmas needed in a simp only call.

Actual behavior: simp? returns nonsense lemmas.

Versions

Version: Lean 4.31.0-nightly-2026-04-30
OS version: live.lean-lang.org.

Additional Information

This is the same issue as #4534, but while the fix there resolved that example, this one remains.

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Research direction

Start with the minimal reproducer in the issue and run the simp? entry point against the stated Lean nightly version. Trace how the suggested simp only lemmas are selected for the 0 ≤ x example. Done means the suggestion no longer includes the unnecessary ge_iff_le lemma and still reports the lemmas needed to reproduce the result.

Written by the indexing model from the issue text.

Assessment

Domain
compilers
Issue type
Bug
Difficulty
3/5
Estimated time
1-2 days
Activity status
Quiet
Clarity
Mostly clear
Newbie friendliness
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