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all_reduce_bytes: 3276800 not allowed by simai when using Llama-2-7B with SimAI backend in Vidur (works with Llama-3-8B)

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1.1 运行命令行
cd SimAI

Compile SimAI-Simulation (ns3)

./scripts/build.sh -c ns3

Create network topo (Spectrum-X_128g_8gps_100Gbps_A100)

python3 ./astra-sim-alibabacloud/inputs/topo/gen_Topo_Template.py -topo Spectrum-X -g 128 -gt A100 -bw 100Gbps -nvbw 2400Gbps

cd SimAI/vidur-alibabacloud

python -m vidur.main
--replica_config_pd_p2p_comm_bandwidth 800
--replica_config_nvlink_bandwidth 1600
--replica_config_rdma_bandwidth 800
--replica_config_pd_p2p_comm_dtype float32
--poisson_request_interval_generator_config_qps 100
--synthetic_request_generator_config_num_requests 10
--length_generator_config_type trace
--trace_request_length_generator_config_max_tokens 2048
--trace_request_length_generator_config_trace_file ./data/processed_traces/splitwise_conv.csv
--interval_generator_config_type poisson
--cluster_config_num_replicas 4
--replica_config_pd_node_ratio 0.5
--global_scheduler_config_type split_wise
--replica_scheduler_config_type split_wise
--replica_config_model_name meta-llama/Meta-Llama-3-8B
--replica_config_tensor_parallel_size 4
--replica_config_num_pipeline_stages 1
--replica_config_expert_model_parallel_size 1
--random_forrest_execution_time_predictor_config_backend simai_simulation
--random_forrest_execution_time_predictor_config_simai_dir ../
--random_forrest_execution_time_predictor_config_simai_simulation_topo ../Spectrum-X_128g_8gps_100Gbps_A100
--random_forrest_execution_time_predictor_config_simai_simulation_config ../astra-sim-alibabacloud/inputs/config/SimAI.conf

1.2 由于项目中没有Meta-Llama-3-8B,因此将模型配置修改为 Llama-2-7B

将模型改为:

--replica_config_model_name meta-llama/Llama-2-7b-hf

其余配置保持不变。

1.4 运行后出现错误

仿真运行过程中出现如下报错:

all_reduce_bytes: 3276800 not allowed by simai

随后导致执行时间预测失败,仿真终止。

2 问题描述(Bug description)

在 Vidur 中使用 SimAI simulation backend 进行执行时间预测时:

当仅将模型修改为 Llama-2-7B 时,会出现:

all_reduce_bytes: 3276800 not allowed by simai

导致 SimAI 无法计算 tensor parallel 的通信时间,从而使仿真失败。

看起来问题可能与 Llama-2-7B 模型在 tensor parallel 下生成的通信规模(all_reduce_bytes) 有关。

3 期望行为(Expected behavior)

期望系统能够:

正常运行 Llama-2-7B 的仿真,或者

提供模型meta-Llama-3-8B模型配置。

4 实际行为(Actual behavior)

运行仿真时出现错误:

all_reduce_bytes: 3276800 not allowed by simai

导致 tensor parallel 的通信时间无法计算,最终仿真终止。

5 运行环境(Environment)

示例环境如下:

Ubuntu:20.04,python:3.10, g++:9.4.0

Name Version Build Channel

_libgcc_mutex 0.1 main
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orjson 3.11.7 py310hfe99b16_0 conda-forge
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pip 26.0.1 pyhc872135_0
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pluggy 1.6.0 pyhf9edf01_1 conda-forge
prometheus-client 0.24.1 pypi_0 pypi
prompt-toolkit 3.0.52 pypi_0 pypi
propcache 0.4.1 pypi_0 pypi
proto-plus 1.27.1 pypi_0 pypi
protobuf 6.33.5 pypi_0 pypi
psutil 7.2.2 pypi_0 pypi
pthread-stubs 0.3 h0ce48e5_1
ptyprocess 0.7.0 pypi_0 pypi
pure-eval 0.2.3 pypi_0 pypi
py-spy 0.4.1 pypi_0 pypi
pyarrow 23.0.1 pypi_0 pypi
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pydantic 2.12.5 pypi_0 pypi
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rsa 4.9.1 pypi_0 pypi
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scipy 1.15.3 pypi_0 pypi
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smmap 5.0.2 pypi_0 pypi
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sqlite 3.51.1 he0a8d7e_0
stack-data 0.6.3 pypi_0 pypi
statsmodels 0.14.6 pypi_0 pypi
streamlit 1.54.0 pypi_0 pypi
sympy 1.14.0 pypi_0 pypi
tenacity 9.1.4 pypi_0 pypi
termcolor 3.3.0 pypi_0 pypi
terminado 0.18.1 pypi_0 pypi
threadpoolctl 3.6.0 pypi_0 pypi
tinycss2 1.4.0 pypi_0 pypi
tk 8.6.15 h54e0aa7_0
toml 0.10.2 pypi_0 pypi
tomli 2.4.0 pyhcf101f3_0 conda-forge
torch 2.10.0 pypi_0 pypi
tornado 6.5.4 pypi_0 pypi
traitlets 5.14.3 pypi_0 pypi
triton 3.6.0 pypi_0 pypi
typing-inspection 0.4.2 pypi_0 pypi
typing_extensions 4.15.0 pyhcf101f3_0 conda-forge
tzdata 2025.3 pypi_0 pypi
uri-template 1.3.0 pypi_0 pypi
urllib3 2.6.3 pypi_0 pypi
virtualenv 21.1.0 pypi_0 pypi
wandb 0.25.0 pypi_0 pypi
watchdog 6.0.0 pypi_0 pypi
wcwidth 0.6.0 pypi_0 pypi
webcolors 25.10.0 pypi_0 pypi
webencodings 0.5.1 pypi_0 pypi
websocket-client 1.9.0 pypi_0 pypi
wheel 0.46.3 py310h06a4308_0
wrapt 2.1.1 pypi_0 pypi
xorg-libx11 1.8.12 h9b100fa_1
xorg-libxau 1.0.12 h9b100fa_0
xorg-libxdmcp 1.1.5 h9b100fa_0
xorg-xorgproto 2024.1 h5eee18b_1
xz 5.6.4 h5eee18b_1
yarl 1.23.0 pypi_0 pypi
zipp 3.23.0 pypi_0 pypi
zlib 1.3.1 hb25bd0a_0

使用的拓扑和配置文件:
网络拓扑文件:Spectrum-X_128g_8gps_100Gbps_A100
配置文件:SimAI.conf

使用场景(Usage scenario):
目前正在使用 Vidur + SimAI 对大模型推理服务进行仿真,主要目的是评估不同模型配置和并行策略下的系统性能表现。

想请教的问题::
all_reduce_bytes = 3276800 在 SimAI 不支持的通信规模,
是否有推荐的配置方式或参数可以避免这个问题?
或者能否提供Meta-Llama-3-8B的模型参数配置

感谢帮助!

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