[Question] I found that ois is numerically equivalent to tis during training
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Hi,
I am training Qwen3.5-4B with Slime v0.2.4 with the following config:
- async
- update weight step = 2
- use tis
When I look at the logged metrics, I found that OIS is numerically equal to TIS during training, which should not happen. Is this a bug or something expected? Thanks in advance for any help.
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What I've Tried
I read through the code and found they should not be equal to each other
Environment (if relevant)
- slime version: v0.2.4
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- I have read the CONTRIBUTING.md and understand the collaboration scope.
- I have read the documentation and FAQ and my question is not answered there.
- I have searched for existing issues and my question has not been asked before.
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Research direction
Start by reproducing the reported training setup in Slime v0.2.4: async mode, update weight step 2, and TIS enabled. Compare the logged OIS and TIS metrics against the expected distinction; done means determining whether their equality is expected or producing a reproducible bug report with the missing environment details.
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- python
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- machine-learning
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- Bug
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