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Investigating Multilingual Post-Training Data Performance

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Overview

We're investigating how to add multilingual capabilities to OLMo-3-7B without catastrophic forgetting of English. Starting from our reproduced instruct SFT checkpoint, we continue training on mixtures of English + EU-language data at varying ratios.

Background: Dolci-Instruct-SFT is 93% English

The base checkpoint's training data (2.15M samples) is overwhelmingly English with a long tail of ~160 languages, each below ~0.4% (Spanish is 2nd largest with ~0.39% (instruct) ~0.41% (think)).

Count-based:
Dolci-Instruct-SFT language counts

Percentage-based (w.r.t. the respective dataset):
Dolci-Instruct-SFT language percentage

Setup
Base checkpoint OLMo-3-7B-Instruct-SFT (reproduced, details)
Judge (Elo) Qwen3.5-27B (dense, via vllm serve, both orderings, 8k max tokens)
Judge (winrate) Qwen3-30B-A3B-Instruct-2507 (VLLM, both orderings, 8k max tokens)
Elo benchmark LMArena, Bradley-Terry, 100 bootstraps, 200 battles/language, 12 EU languages
Winrate benchmarks m-arena-hard-EU (6000 prompts, 12 EU languages), arena-hard (500 English prompts)
Training languages en + de, es, fr, it, pt, pl, nl, cs (ratio varies by experiment)
Eval languages en, de, es, fr, it, pt, pl, nl, cs, ro, el, uk (12 languages available in LMArena)
Held-out languages ro, el (zero-shot transfer test, not in training data)
Experiment tracks
Track Question Design
A Preliminary: does the English/EU ratio matter? 90/80/70% English, ~95k samples, fusion-synth only, EU share split equally across 8 languages
B Does more diverse data help? Same ratios, ~490k samples, fusion-synth + wildchat, lmsys-chat, oasst2
C Is English regression caused by EU data, or by continued SFT itself? 100% English control (no EU data), same total samples
D Does replaying the base checkpoint's English data reduce forgetting? Same ratios as Track A, but English from Dolci-Instruct-SFT (base checkpoint's own training data)
E Does Dolci replay scale with more data? Same as Track D, but ~490k samples instead of ~95k
Full experiment matrix
Exp. En/EU N Elo Elo en Elo w/o en EU WR% en WR%
Baseline 741±9 950±21 722±10 50% 50%
A1-90en 90/10 94.7k 702±10 771±32 692±10 54.8% 14.1%
A2-80en 80/20 93.6k 704±11 769±30 703±11 57.2% 12.4%
A3-70en 70/30 91.7k 713±10 766±29 689±11 58.8% 13.3%
B1-90en 90/10 491k 720±9 789±26 708±10 53.6% 13.0%
B2-80en 80/20 473k 722±9 797±26 722±10 52.9% 14.2%
C0-100en 100/0 94.7k 670±11 791±29 681±11 48.9% 11.8%
D1-90en 90/10 94.7k 751±8 942±20 716±11 63.4% 54.6%
D2-80en 80/20 93.6k 751±8 956±20 725±12 62.0% 54.6%
D3-70en 70/30 91.7k 753±9 963±21 731±11 63.5% 54.3%
E1-90en 90/10 491k 758±9 965±21 740±9 59.9% 57.0%
E2-80en 80/20 474k 759±8 931±24 725±9 56.6% 58.2%
E3-70en 70/30 455k 751±9 940±22 726±9 53.1% 58.6%

Elo: Qwen3.5-27B judge. "en" = English-only (200 battles). "w/o en" = 11 non-English languages.

EU WR% / en WR% = winrate vs baseline (Qwen3-30B-A3B judge). 50% = parity.

Findings
  1. Dolci replay preserves English (Track D): English Elo stays at 942-963 (baseline is 950), English arena-hard winrate ~55%. Without replay (Track A), English drops to 766-771 Elo / ~13% winrate. The source of the English data matters, the En/EU ratio doesn't.
  2. The D-track advantage is almost entirely English: per-language Elo shows A vs D gap is ~190 points on English. On trained EU languages, they're within CIs.
  3. Scaling helps modestly: E1 (90/10 at 491k) reaches the highest overall Elo (758). More EU data at scale (E2/E3) shows diminishing returns.
  4. More diverse data doesn't help (Track B): 5× more data from wildchat/lmsys/oasst2 → similar Elo to Track A.
  5. Continued SFT itself causes forgetting (Track C): C0 (100% English, no EU data at all) still drops English Elo to 791. The regression is not caused by EU data but by training on non-Dolci English.
  6. Transfer: Romanian (held-out, Latin script) transfers well (Elo 700-890). Greek (held-out, different script) does not (540-690).
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